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Please help about Weathering

Sorry I don't know how to type chinese , but can anyone help me ?
I am using the Mr Color's Arcylic paint as base and I try to use Testor's Enamel for Weathering. but it melt my Arcylic paint even i used the Thinner to make it very thin. And I use Zippo alcohol to clean but it still melt . It there any way to solve this problem ? Please help me all brothers. Thank you very very much
I have to use the Arcylic paint because its very very difficult to buy other kind of Paint here.. so Arcylic paint are my only choice .

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發表於 2007-12-5 01:41 PM  資料  短消息  加為好友 
It is very strange that lighter fiuld would dissolve Hobby Color. Two things I will check, 1)make sure that the arcylic layer is completely dry. It usually takes several days. 2)try to swipe the arcylic layer with nothing but just Zippo to see if Zippo does dissolve the arcylic layer. 'cos I suspect it is the content in Testor's Enamel. If nothing dissolve, then you should switch to Tamiya enamel.

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發表於 2007-12-5 08:22 PM  資料  短消息  加為好友 
Thank you brother for your help
I already waited for few days to make sure the Arcylic layer was dry.
Hmm your right, I will use the Zippo fluid to just wipe on the Arcylic paint and see will it dissolve
Thank yuo veyr much for the help

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Ok I just tried using Zippo Fluid and wipe on the Arcylic paint and seems it doen't dissolve the paint. I think the problem is from the Enamel Thinner. If I use the Zippo Fluid as a Thinner , it sholuldn't have any problems and thank you for VampireA 's idea

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hey brothers,
what's the difference between zippo " lighter fuel?? "  and your common rubbing alcohol? and your 從節水?
and about weathering,
do you guys thin the paint alot, but put may layers or do you guys use one thick coat and then wipe the excess paint?
i always fine the paint dry too fast to *wipe off* and i end up rubbing the base coat off >.<





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原帖由 blahblahfish 於 2007-12-7 03:13 AM 發表
hey brothers,
what's the difference between zippo " lighter fuel?? "  and your common rubbing alcohol? and your 從節水?
and about weathering,
do you guys thin the paint alot, but put may la ...

rubbing alcohol cann't dissolve enamel paint. it only dissolves arcylic paint.
zippo could dissolve enamel paint only, and so is 松節水.
but when thin enamel with zippo, it trends to produce some residue of the pigment. So zippo is recommended only to wipe the excess paint in the "wash" technique as normal plastic will be damage (weaken) with excess of Tamiya X20 thinner. To thin enamel for painting, it is recommanded to still use X20. And when a lot of thinner is needed to apply on the plastic such as wiping dry enamel paint, some people is now switching to use Zippo and 松節水.

Weathering, I suppose you mean by the Wash technique. And yes, it should use about 2~3times more thinner than normal painting. But more sure the base paint and "wash" paint are two different kinds of paint (wash paint need to not dissolve the base paint)

If you end up wipe off the base paint, check to see the top paint will not dissolve the base paint.

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發表於 2007-12-7 11:43 PM  資料  短消息  加為好友 
Yes your right i am dong the Wash Technique , and i use the Zippo Fluid to thing the Enamel paint, seems working ok  I can't find X20 Thinner in Canada anymore
and when i use the Enamel's thinner to thin the Paint , than i apply on model with Arcylic paint based , the arcyclic paint melt as well.
I will give this a try again. Thank you very much brother

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原帖由 CivicEK4 於 2007-12-7 11:43 PM 發表
Yes your right i am dong the Wash Technique , and i use the Zippo Fluid to thing the Enamel paint, seems working ok  I can't find X20 Thinner in Canada anymore
and when i use the Enamel's thinn ...

I used to live in Canada too, I lived in Calgary ten years ago for eight years. Actually, I never bought any paint while I was there. I did my shopping while I's back for the summer. But I remember some hobby stores did sell X20. Perhaps the law has changed since then. Environmental laws are tighter even everywhere on this planet, even Hong Kong. Since X20 will gives off organic vapour, perhaps it just could not be imported anymore. If you can't find any X20, use turpentine then. You can find artist quality turpentine at the local art supplies store. It is commonly used to thin oil color. It thins enamel just as well. I know that turpentine can't thin Hobby Color acrylic, but I haven't try if it will dissolve acrylic when it is dry 'cos I mostly use the lacquer base Mr. Color instead.  Beware the smell of turpentine, it smells just like 獅子油.

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