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星期日帶支油出黎睇睇

OKOK~~

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原帖由 小人物 於 2006-11-28 03:17 PM 發表
塊面好似有d灰黑感覺,溝咗黑色嗎?

唉...次次都係咁...
我開頭用肉色溝啡同紅色做好左成個樣
但手痕走去用左少少好稀既藍色唸住做"的水"...點知大筆左...
再補肉色已經HIN連到個面....
所以黑左少少...
次次都係呢個STEP奶野....

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呢個幾乎係所有初學者必會遇到既問題, 慢慢就會改

我唸重點除左要用好稀既油之外,吸係筆上面既油越少就越好,咁就話先會易控制D
教到ARMARM足夠"印"到D色上去就可以做到SHOW既效果了
(雖然係失敗左,但我成日都係一邊面得另一邊面出事,我估當中係因為油另一邊面個時吸左太多油又手快快油左上去所至)

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今晚俾d笑容喇~~~~

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Wittmann

油得唔算好好……
聽日買多盒~~~

今晚有d夾硬油……下次要早d返屋企先有精神……

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原帖由 王子老師 於 2006-12-29 12:20 AM 發表
加油....joey...^^

老師面對 dragon兵....
已有想死的心..

唔好咁快死呀~~
佢個樣都ok架~
衫噴左灰
未細睇
所以唔知~~

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已經好好

不過我發覺你有一個存在已久既問題 : 肌肉色偏灰. 係咪同一隻色溝完白又溝黑呢? 要注意呢點

加油

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原帖由 louisuni 於 2006-12-29 12:33 AM 發表
頭個兩幅相好正播.

正如 Joe sir 話齋, 係有少少灰灰地, 同埋有條分模線. 呢隻係 1/35 ?

都係懶之過……+唔夠精神
都係要跟斯巴逹人兄講開定隻肉色至得~~

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佢第三幅應該係 1/48 既

好難mix and match……

張野俾到好多新idea我~~
不過入面d人一定係改得好勁~!!!!!!
邊有咁多個美軍呀~!!!!

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150% 精盡……人亡…
沖個涼先~~

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原帖由 狄格斯 於 2006-12-30 01:42 AM 發表
joey兄:

睇過你幾個post,見你初學玩人仔,好高興

我係啱啱搵到呢個forum,見到有呢個潮流都好開心,因為髹人仔都係小眾玩意
見到你啲作品,有啲意見,請勿介意:
一. 好多時見你啲人面相都偏灰,我建議你買多啲土/黃色系0既油,咁就對初學者會易啲掌握溝色(我見joe sir用好少色就得,但係要累積多啲經驗先),唔好落灰黑喺肉色度---如果想屧鬚根,可以用肉色加少少藍/綠色,開到好稀,用細筆好小心咁髹;
二. 見你啲衫好"令"色,聽你講有用紙巾索過油都係咁,我諗你可能枝油未搖均;但有另一個情況,我都試過搖得好均,但係都"令",我就試下用distilled water開油,就冇咗呢個情況(我都唔知點解),你可以試下;
三. 面相可以髹得contrast大啲,睇落會sharp好多,放胆去;
四. 你啲衫光陰唔太自然,要多啲中間色過渡,同埋啲油唔怕開稀啲,枝筆索得多唔緊要,你用布或紙巾索到枝筆冇水就ok,髹多幾下就見到色,就好似dry brush啲稀咗0既油咁

以上純粹個人經驗之談,如有錯誤,各位高手請不吝指正

歡迎狄格斯兄來到架~
重一開始就塞錢落我袋~~我點會介意喎~~
呢度油人仔既trend其實真係要感謝joe sir極之熱心同有耐性一直教學~
大家互相分享享受模型既樂趣，真係好開心~~

師兄提到既問題我一直都有注意到
之前有師兄提過可以先溝好幾支唔同tone既肉色，方便以後做，咁就唔怕溝白又溝黑令色one變灰了~
不過小弟既女性朋友幫我買左兩三個眼孳水jon，但一直未俾我…我要夾硬油……
哈~~~今晚執一執，開多少少油來油，灰色感到真係少左好多了~~~

令面問題我都請教過joe sir幾次，今次油又好似冇乜事……
會唔會關我噴灰噴得唔雲事？
我發覺今次噴灰噴雲d，好似冇咁令了~~~

面相contrast真係未係好熟手…一時見到可以重手d，但一時個面相刻位唔夠深就冇咁重手了……我呢個就係點解resin 兵刻位深得多既原因……唔知arm唔arm呢？
加上我重未好好掌握肉色色one……真係要油多d先可以試到出來~~~~

最後油衫方法……我已經關始試開得稀d，但係印返d油出來呢個step重未掌握到，一時吸得arm，一時吸得少……一油上去先知多左……下次我會試下中間多個buffer色，我唸咁真係會好d，我都覺得太硬，你一咁講我就明可以點做了~~

真係感情師兄指教~！
睇來我真係要留堂再做功課了~~
希望師兄多d上來玩喇~

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原帖由 Joe_Lo 於 2006-12-30 01:28 AM 發表
wittmann 翻生呀

面相顏色偏灰好明顯改善左, 讚

件皮褸同條褲既光暗位分佈都唔錯

當然仲有好多地方需要改善 :

- 筆痕
- 皮褸, 手套同條褲既質感
- 面相既立體感同埋顏色變化

不過呢隻兵仔真係好難油得靚, 我以前都油過一隻, 效果都唔係咁好, 近排都攞左出黎執過

thanks 呀~~!!!
聽日唔洗返工，夾硬油耐d，油好d先收手~~~

筆痕真係未唸到點改善，最衰上次睇唔到你點油喇~~
下次一定要睇清潔d先得~!!

件衫……我會再試試~~~但我都係期代你既demo多d jei~~~~~

面相我唸要再練多d~
我依家target係練到可以一take過油到5層色先，不過如狄格斯兄所講，過度buffer都要唸下有冇幫助~~

死喇…wittmann都俾我油埋…我既next target係邊粒人仔好呢………
係時候唸唸佢了~~~~

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原帖由 Joe_Lo 於 2006-12-30 02:24 AM 發表

比個 reference 你參考下, 呢隻 wittmann 我最近翻執過黎, 比之前好左 d, 睇下對你有無幫助

嘩……
真係可以用顏色變化做到個texture！！

神呀~~!!!!!

聽日再睇睇先~~~
勁眼訓~~~

thanks so much~~~

淡先~~~

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原帖由 狄格斯 於 2006-12-30 02:32 AM 發表
睇返joey兄138樓0既相,髹衫0既油都唔夠稀喎
同埋基本色應該只係show好細範圍,大部份位都係高光/陰影
如果排濃至稀,應該會係:
基本色>高光>陰影
有啲嘢想話你知,但係我又冇圖喺手,電腦又唔多掂...
sorry

一早起身再睇睇joe sir既兩張相……
真係要再執多次個身了~~~
compare之下勁唔掂！！

我唸我太機械式咁做高光同陰影了
冇留意到overall本身既起伏同顏色既choice...

晏少少執一執~
再post上來俾大家睇下喇~~
睇下經兩位大師醒完tips之後會唔會又好d~~

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原帖由 狄格斯 於 2006-12-30 11:41 AM 發表
重有,你試下上vallejo個website睇下(唔記得咗個網址,你search下),我記得佢有教基本髹公仔0既方法,同埋好似有recommend啲油開水0既比例,我最初都係跟住佢做,跟住累積咗少少經驗,就可以多flexible啲
網上應該有好多值得參考0既料,得閒睇多啲,會進步快好多0架

同埋你可以試下搵啲講overhead lighting,或其他講light source direction啲料,會對你髹出立體感

師應該係講呢個page吧~~~
真係好正~~~
thanks so much~!!

http://www.ttfxmedia.com/vallejo ... modelcolortecnica03

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hehe~~
第一次日光日白油人仔~
的確醒神好多~~~

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睇完篇野先知咩叫blending~~

今次油衫令我zoom到多一部係details 喇~~
下次油面可能會再好d~~
我發覺油衫好似同油面既做法有d唔同
有少少反返轉咁…
但concept一樣……我都唔識講……
但一樣好好玩~~

手套我覺得好難油……
做唔到一下子同件褸唔同既texture……

我對住joe sir兩張reference來油……希望joe sir唔介意喇
(對住油都冇用…因為都油唔到咁靚……

)

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原帖由 Joe_Lo 於 2006-12-30 02:38 PM 發表
今次件衫既光暗位真係柔和左好多呀, 讚

光位 (尤其係近膊頭位) 可以再加強

yeah~~!

睇來contrast同漸變真係要同時加強先會好d~!!!

今次架白色忍住忍住……所以高位既高光冇咁sharp~~
再執~~

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發表於 2006-12-31 01:15 AM 資料主頁短消息加為好友

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原帖由 狄格斯 於 2006-12-31 12:51 AM 發表
的確有進步喎

件衫幾好,但係頂帽都係柔返啲好
至於你話想做唔同texture,咁就要用唔同techniqe去玩
你話我知啲衣物係咩質地,我試下講唔講到畀你知點做,ok?
至於樓上呢隻黃衫人仔啲highlight就過咗火位...

太好喇~~
對於唔同既texture，真係唔知點玩好……
我都要搵下料先可以confirm到咩衫係咩料……
上面個人仔真係玩死人……
armarm先油到35人仔既身…一去到48又係另一會事……

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