今日在西班牙 Jerez 的第二日試車, 威廉士在今年的戰車 FW-30 上安裝了明年張會實施的新規格尾翼, 新賽例規格志在大幅減低空氣動力學, 希望增加可觀性.

Williams and Kazuki Nakajima testing their 2009-spec rear end.

They ran an FW30 fitted with a rear wing and diffuser sized to the new dimensions, however the rest of the aero was to the current rules.

The 2009 rules demand the rear wing be just 800mm wide, but it is allowed to be deeper and placed higher up. While the new diffuser is lower, shorter, and moved further back.

驟眼看落雖然怪怪的, 只不過是因為車身, 頭翼等全部都是今年的, 監硬夾落大幅改變的新例尾翼, 當然會唔襯啦!  車隊老闆, 孤寒財主--- 法蘭威廉士和拍檔, 拍直頭, 都說09年的 F-1 賽車外形會好似 90年代初期的模樣.   對我來說是好消息, 雖然我不嬲都頗喜愛現在 F-1 的複雜外形, 不過當變成模型, 要噴油兼捽 compound 時, 都係以前的外形好D

[ 本帖最後由 獅象 於 2009-3-17 10:09 PM 編輯 ]

當變成Revell 模型...直頭冇意慾去砌添

More photo to you for reference !!

「誰直尾翼」好似以前D車既尾翼反轉左咁~~~
有D似細細個唔識痴錯左咁~

拿拿拿、Ｗｉｌｌｉａｍｓ係我最支持的車隊、希望明年可以番身。

好Q肉酸呀!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 廣告商又多得佢唔少了
同場加影 : 得啖笑加頭燈老麥
http://www.mclaren.com/interacti ... 0&vidheight=480

又睇吓從一個資深 F-1 高層的眼光看這 09年新尾翼吖 :-

Honda Racing team principal Ross Brawn believes Formula One fans will get used to the radical new look of next year's cars, after mixed reaction to the first public running of a 2009-spec wing last week.

And although the new-look wing caused a few raised eyebrows in the paddock and among fans who saw photographs, Brawn believes that it will not take long for the sport to accept how 2009 F1 cars look.

"They don't look bad to me, you get used to them," said Brawn when asked if he felt next year's generation of cars would not be as good looking at this year's models.

"It is like when we had narrow tyres and grooved tyres, they looked weird when they started but then you adjust. So it is a bit difficult for me to comment completely.

"I think they look okay - and they look in many ways nicer because the bodywork doesn't have all this furniture, the vortex generators, fins and wings. The bodywork is relatively clean. It is a much bigger front wing and smaller higher rear wing, but we have had things like that in the past."

Brawn said, however, that it would be up to individuals to judge for themselves whether the new-look cars are 'better'.
"You could judge from that if you like it or not. It is a matter of taste."

Looking at the new 09 spec rear wing now has made me appreciate the current wing design . The new wing will definitely take time of getting used to, that's for sure. Hopefully, it'll make the car go faster, because it sure as hell doesn't make it look better, at least not at the moment .

Not sure about the rest of you, but I prefer the complex look the current cars have as oppose to next year's cars which will have a cleaner look to them.

[ 本帖最後由 MachineMessiah 於 2008-9-23 03:22 AM 編輯 ]

近年來所有 FIA 的有關賽車科技新例都係針對車速過高, 即係話 "倒行逆施", 所以09年新翼應該會係慢D, 唔係快D
我係完全接受, 甚至幾鐘意現今的 aerodynamic 外形, 只是砌模型就會難度高左.

Indeed, FIA has been implementing technical guidelines in recent years that would help slow the cars down for safety reasons.

I remember seeing an interview of the drivers regarding the aerodynamics. A lot of them said they would prefer not to have them, as that would make overtaking easier. If that's the case for the 09 cars, then the races should be more exciting to watch as we'll be seeing more overtaking maneuvers, which there isn't too much of thesedays, I think .

[ 本帖最後由 MachineMessiah 於 2008-9-23 08:05 PM 編輯 ]

agree, 好核突  

咁09例頭翼會唔會做細佢 ???

[ 本帖最後由 cko 於 2008-9-24 07:46 AM 編輯 ]

09年的頭翼我得到的信息係加大 "空氣動力學有效面積", 至於總面積大左定細左就  理念和細尾翼目的一致 : 減低尾翼所產生的亂流而影響後貼車的頭翼效能, 加大頭翼的效能去抵消緊貼前車尾翼的影響.   即係一加一減, 降低爬頭的難度, 增加爬頭機會 ------- 最終目標 : 加強 F-1 可觀性

誒, 不如唔好用 grooved tyres 好過...................

證明你冇做功課嘞  已經確實左09年用 slick 喇 都係分兩種 compound, 和硬性規定一場賽事中要用晒兩種 compound. 石橋亦已決定新 slick 的兩隻 compound 的分別會比今年的加大, 增加變數, 因為今年大部份車隊投訴分別太少!! 好多時排位賽時都唔知用邊隻, 影響正式賽事部署云云.
而家石橋的最 "大" 問題係, 點樣識別兩種胎呢? ( prime & option tires ) 冇左坑紋黎劃白線!!! 唔好以為好簡單, 舊年實施此例前已 "arr" 晒頭, 因此油漆/染料etc. 通通都會對 F-1 賽車胎物料造成影響!!! 仲有好多技術上的考慮, 當年有一長篇解說文章, 已經唔記得喇   這就是 F-1, 先進到太極端!!!
仲有一樣未定案 : Tire warmer
FIA 原本以減低成本為理由, 想在09年全面禁止, 但經過今年各車隊測試過新 slick 後, 都提出對車胎溫度差距的安全性關注, 因為 slick 胎對溫度變化更敏感......還記得 94年5月1號, Imola 的教訓吧!

用番咪好囉 ~~ 我都係個句, 想多啲過頭機會? reduce aerodynamic grip but increase mechanical grip ~~~
但除頭尾翼外, 09例 會否禁用 車身上的 aerodynamic element??

至於94年, 我會相信係 steering column failure or bottoming 導致意外 多d ~~~~~~

的而且確........明年係會加大頭翼
不過攪咁多花臣把鬼咩, 加磅同埋退後排位咪攪定囉.......
始終都係要燒吓錢先安樂, 背後可能有太多商業因素了

好似話禁哂d側翼

Steering colume failure 是原兇的說法已被法庭否決左, 如果唔係孤寒財主威廉士先生仲係道玩得咁過癮? 答案係 bottom out.
錦點解會 bottom out 呢???
Tips : 事發前 safty car period 很長

09年 "應該" 會冇晒果 D翼仔, 不過, F-1 界中全部都是世界最頂尖的賽車工程師腦袋, 一如華爾街那些開發 Derivatives 的腦袋咁叻 . 佢地有辦法的. FIA 就一如證監會.....你地明啦!

good ~~~~~~~
咁f1模會易砌好多~~~~~

個 court, 一場大戲黎姐 ~~~~
又唔見 razenberger (唔記得點串) 有 ????????

長 safety car period ----> Tyre surface temp drops -----> tyre air temp drops too
-----> Tyre pressure drops (As Pressure * Volume / Temperature = some constant, and volume unchanged in this situation)
-----> tyre shape deformed, become fatten -------->as  ride height decrease ..... bottoming ..............

09例係咪會加多個 kinetic energy reservations system ?? 落實左未 ?????